4B)
Iraq WMD Debate
Mr. BENNETT. Mr. President, I have listened to the
debate that has been swirling around the country with respect to Iraq. The
debate comes up again with respect to the commission which is currently meeting.
I cannot respond to all of the specifics that come along. I am tempted to,
but I will not because I want to spend the time that is allotted to me by
setting the total record before those who might be listening so we can
understand that many of the original statements or original positions with
respect to Iraq that are being repeated over and over again are, in fact, false.
I remember our colleague across the aisle, the late Senator Moynihan from
New York, one of my dear friends and one of the Senators for whom I have the
highest regard, quoted something. He probably didn't think of it himself, but it
was more or less his mantra, as he said to me: ``Everyone is entitled to his own
opinion but not to his own facts.''
We keep hearing things said over and over again with respect to the war in
Iraq as if they were fact. It is time to set the overall record straight.
We heard one statement that there was absolutely no connection between
9/11 and Iraq. The other one we hear over and over again is the reason we went
into Iraq is because we thought Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.
Some make it a little more stark than that.
There was a group that marched on the Utah State Legislature wearing
T-shirts that said, ``Bush Lied To Us. There Were No WMDs,'' as if the President
of the United
States George W. Bush himself alone was the only authority for the notion
that there were weapons of mass destruction; and, once again repeating the false
position that the only reason we went into Iraq is because we believed they had
weapons of mass destruction.
To quote another individual not nearly as well known as Pat Moynihan but
my high school history teacher, she would always say to us, ``You cannot cut the
seamless web of history.'' I want to take this opportunity to lay out the whole
seamless web of the history of terrorism and do our best to understand it so we
can realize the first statement that there was no connection between Iraq and
9/11 and the second statement that the only reason we went in is because Bush
lied to us about weapons there, are not true. And I hope we can get the dialog
back to the facts.
I am distressed at what has happened to the dialog on this issue. I must
comment. On television was the former Vice President of the United States with
his hand with a clenched fist raised, the blood vessels standing out on his
neck, screaming at the top of his voice, speaking of the President, ``He has
betrayed this country.''
To say the President has betrayed his country is to accuse him of treason,
which is one of the crimes specifically listed in the Constitution as an
impeachable offense. We have not heard that kind of rhetoric from a politician
as highly placed as Al Gore since the 1950s. And the politician who used to
speak like that was a member of this Chamber. His name was Joe McCarthy, and the
President whom he accused of treason was Harry Truman.
Let us step away from that kind of rhetoric in this debate and review the
facts.
I had the opportunity of attending the Kissinger Lecture at the Library of
Congress which was given by George Shultz, former Secretary of State. It was one
of the most cogent and lucid statements of where we are with respect to the war
on terror I have ever heard. An update of that appeared in today's Wall Street
Journal. I would like to quote from that those points which address the issues I
have talked about, and ask unanimous consent that the entire piece be printed in
the RECORD following my remarks.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
(See exhibit 1).
Mr. BENNETT. Mr. President, former Secretary of State George Shultz begins
with this comment:
We have struggled with terrorism for a long time. In the Reagan
administration, I was a hawk on the subject. I said terrorism is a big problem,
a different problem and we have to take forceful action against it. Fortunately,
Ronald Reagan agreed with me but not many others did. [Don Rumsfeld was an
outspoken exception.]
Twenty-five years ago, it was on the radar screen of an American
administration--in this case one headed by Ronald Reagan--that terrorism was a
problem.
Secretary Shultz goes on to discuss this and then makes this comment:
Today, looking back on the past quarter century of terrorism, we can see
that it is the method of choice of an extensive, internationally connected
ideological movement dedicated to the destruction of our international system of
cooperation and progress. We can see that the 1981 assassination of President
Anwar Sadat, the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, the 2001 destruction of
the Twin Towers, the bombs on the trains in Madrid, and scores of other
terrorist attacks in between and in many countries, were carried out by one part
or another of this movement. And the movement is connected to states that
develop awesome weaponry, with some of it, or with expertise, for sale.
Let me emphasize that last sentence again. Speaking of international
terrorism that was involved in all of these things, going back to the
assassination of Sadat in 1981, he says:
And the movement is connected to states that develop awesome weaponry,
with some of it, or with expertise, for sale.
All right. Do we have an example of such a state that has developed
awesome weaponry that may be for sale? Yes.
Quoting again from Secretary Shultz, he speaks directly of Saddam Hussein
and Iraq. He adds to this Kim Jong Il of North Korea, and then says:
They seize control of state power and use that power to enhance their
wealth, consolidate their rule and develop their weaponry. As they do this, and
as they violate the laws and principles of the international system, they at the
same time claim its privileges and immunities, such as the principle of
non-intervention into the internal affairs of a legitimate sovereign state. For
decades these thugs have gotten away with it. And the leading nations of the
world have let them get away with it.
Yes, we have heard much on this floor about America must not invade
another sovereign state. That is precisely what Secretary Shultz is talking
about when he says, these states that develop awesome weaponry and cooperate
with terrorism for the purpose of
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upsetting the international order, then claim the
immunities of the international order for themselves--as he says: ``such as the
principle of non-intervention into the internal affairs of a legitimate
sovereign state.''
He goes on to summarize all that happened in Iraq. And again, those who
will read the entire piece as it appears following my statement can get all of
those details. But after he recites the details of what Saddam Hussein has done,
he turns to David Kay, the man who is quoted again and again as the authority
for the statement on the T-shirt that says: ``Bush Lied To Us.''
Well, let's see what David Kay really said. I said in my previous
statement David Kay told this Congress, testifying before the Armed Services
Committee, that Saddam Hussein was, in fact, more dangerous than we thought when
we started the war. But these are the portions of David Kay's position Secretary
Shultz chooses to highlight, and I think they are the right ones to bring out.
Quoting again:
As Dr. David Kay put it in a Feb. 1 interview with Chris Wallace, ``We
know there were terrorist groups in state still seeking WMD capability. Iraq,
although I found no weapons, had tremendous capabilities in this area. A
marketplace phenomena was about to occur, if it did not occur; sellers meeting
buyers. And I think that would have been very dangerous if the war had not
intervened.''
Sellers of what? Buyers of what? Who would the sellers be? Who would the
buyers be? The sellers, obviously, would be the Iraqis. The buyers would be the
terrorists. And what are we talking about?
Back to Secretary Shultz:
When asked by Mr. Wallace what the sellers could have sold if they didn't
have actual weapons, Mr. Kay said: ``The knowledge of how to make them, the
knowledge of how to make small amounts, which is, after all, mostly what
terrorists want. They don't want battlefield amounts of weapons. No, Iraq
remained a very dangerous place in terms of WMD capabilities, even though we
found no large stockpiles of weapons.''
Just think about that for a second: the knowledge to make them.
If I could give a very homely example, last week my wife and I were
celebrity chefs at the March of Dimes gala, and we won a prize, and people all
said: Is this an old family recipe? We had to admit, no, we called a chef in
Salt Lake City at one of the finest restaurants there, who happens to work as a
judge at these kinds of celebrity cook-ins, and he gave us a recipe he thought
would win. We have been celebrity chefs four times. We have called him all four
times. We have won three out of four.
The capacity to tell somebody how to make something will produce that
something just as much as having that something yourself. This chef did not
participate, but his recipes participated, and his recipes won. All we had to do
was be the willing buyers in the case; and he was the willing seller. I will
add, just for the record, no money changed hands with respect to the recipe. But
the example is there, and that is what David Kay is talking about.
Going back to Secretary Shultz, he says:
..... in the long run, the most important aspect of the Iraq war will be
what it means for the integrity of the international system and for the effort
to deal effectively with terrorism. The stakes are huge and the terrorists know
that as well as we do. That is the reason for their tactic of violence in Iraq.
And that is why, for us and for our allies, failure is not an option. The
message is that the U.S. and others in the world who recognize the need to
sustain our international system will no longer quietly acquiesce in the
take-over of states by lawless dictators who then carry on their
depredations--including the development of awesome weapons for threats, use, or
sale--behind the shield of protection that statehood provides. If you are one of
these criminals in charge of a state, you no longer should expect to be allowed
to be inside the system at the same time that you are a deadly enemy of it.
Secretary Shultz concludes his piece with this comment:
If we put this in terms of World War II, we are now sometime around 1937.
In the 1930s, the world failed to do what it needed to do to head off a world
war. Appeasement never works. Today we are in action. We must not flinch. With a
powerful interplay of strength and diplomacy, we can win this war.
Put it in context, put it in the historic pattern, and we realize this is
all connected and that the action with respect to Iraq was a very proper,
significant, indeed, essential part of the overall war on terrorism. If we had
not moved ahead, we would have been irresponsible.
The summary is in the callout that is put in the paper that says:
The U.S. had no choice: We had to oust Saddam Hussein, or face the gravest
threat.
Mr. President, may I ask how much time I have remaining?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator has 4 1/2 minutes.
Mr. BENNETT. If I might use that 4 1/2 minutes, then, to address the
fundamental question of the future nobody talks about. We are spending all of
this time rehashing the past. Here is the fundamental question of the future:
What happened to Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction? The assumption
raised by the statement that ``Bush lied to us about the weapons'' is that the
weapons never existed.
Well, the first person to convince me the weapons existed was Madeleine
Albright. The first President to tell me the weapons existed was William
Jefferson Clinton.
The first group that insisted weapons were there was working for the
United Nations. This was not a partisan thing put together by George W. Bush.
The weapons were clearly in Iraq, and the question is not why didn't Bush tell
us the truth about them; the question is, what happened to them? That is the
question we need to address. That is the question of the future we are ignoring
in all of this debate about who said what at what point in the past.
As I see it, there are four possibilities of what happened to the weapons
Saddam Hussein had. No. 1, we got them all in the bombing in 1998. We must
remember, as we try to truncate the history, the war in Iraq began in 1991. The
U.N. resolution that called for the war was never suspended. It was renewed with
acts of war in 1998. A heavy 4-day period of solid bombing is an act of war.
President Clinton carried that out with the approval of this Congress. So the
first possibility is that bombing destroyed all of the weapons of mass
destruction.
The second possibility, Saddam Hussein himself dismantled his stockpiles
of weapons of mass destruction in an effort to convince the U.N. inspectors they
were not there so the inspectors would leave him alone and he could go back to
building them after the inspectors were gone. There is some suggestion that was
in fact what happened, that he did not intend to disarm, as U.N. Resolution 1441
required he do. All he intended to do was deceive, and that is where the weapons
went.
Possibility No. 3, they were trucked over the border. Some of them got
into Syria or other places and into the hands of others who still have them.
And possibility No. 4, they are still in Iraq and we simply have not found
them. When people ask me, which of these four possibilities do you think is the
most likely, I say: All of the above. I believe we destroyed a good portion of
his weapons in the 1998 bombing. I believe he himself dismantled others in a
deliberate attempt to deceive the U.N. inspectors. I believe some of them did
get out of the country and are in the hands of other bad actors somewhere. And I
believe there are probably still some hidden away somewhere in the desert in
Iraq.
Unless the first answer is the only one that is correct and they were all
destroyed in the bombing, they are still around somewhere. The capacity to build
them was still around, as David Kay pointed out, before we went in and removed
that.
If there are some of them still around, why aren't we looking for them?
Why aren't we paying attention to where they might be? I believe the American
military is still on the alert for them. I believe the American intelligence
community is still looking to where they might be. But in the debate we have
here on the Senate floor, this question is never raised. It is never given any
attention. Instead we spend all of our time looking backward and trying to
assign blame instead of looking forward and trying to solve problems.
I commend Secretary Shultz's presentation to all. It is a clear historic
perspective over a quarter century from one of our senior statesmen that makes
it clear the rhetoric surrounding this issue has been inappropriate and focused
on the wrong thing.
I yield the floor.
Exhibit 1
[From the Asian
Wall Street Journal, Mar. 29, 2004]
An Essential War
(By George P.
Shultz)
We have struggled with terrorism for a long time. In the Reagan
administration, I was a hawk on the subject. I said terrorism is a big problem,
a different problem, and we have to take forceful action against it.
Fortunately, Ronald Reagan agreed with me, but not many others did. (Don
Rumsfeld was an outspoken exception).
In those days we focused on how to defend against terrorism. We reinforced
our embassies and increased out intelligence effort. We thought we made some
progress. We established the legal basis for holding states responsible for
using terrorists to attack Americans anywhere. Through intelligence, we did
abort many potential terrorist acts. But we didn't really understand what
motivated the terrorists or what they were out to do.
In the 1990s, the problem began to appear even more menacing. Osama bin
Laden and al Qaeda were well known, but the nature of the terror threat was not
yet comprehended and our efforts to combat it were ineffective. Diplomacy
without much force was tried. Terrorism was regarded as a law enforcement
problem and terrorists as criminals. Some were arrested and put on trial. Early
last year, a judge finally allowed the verdict to stand for one of those
convicted in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Ten years! Terrorism is not a
matter that can be left to law enforcement, with its deliberative process,
built-in delays, and safeguards that may let the prisoner go free on procedural
grounds.
Today, looking back on the past quarter century of terrorism, we can see
that it is the method of choice of an extensive, internationally connected
ideological movement dedicated to the destruction of our international system of
cooperation and progress. We can see that the 1981 assassination of President
Anwar Sadat, the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, the 2001 destruction of
the Twin Towers, the bombs on the trains in Madrid, and scores of other
terrorist attacks in between and in many countries, were carried out by one part
or another of this movement. And the movement is connected to states that
develop awesome weaponry, with some of it, or with expertise, for sale.
What should we do? First and foremost, shore up the state system.
The world has worked for three centuries with the sovereign state as the
basic operating entity, presumably accountable to its citizens and responsible
for their well-being. In this system, states also interact with each other--bilaterlly
or multilaterally--to accomplish ends that transcend their borders. They create
international organizations to serve their ends, not govern them.
Increasingly, the state system has been eroding. Terrorists have exploited
this weakness by burrowing into the state system in order to attack it. While
the state system weakens, no replacement is in sight that can perform the
essential functions of establishing an orderly and lawful society, protecting
essential freedoms, providing a framework for fruitful economic activity,
contributing to effective international cooperation, and providing for the
common defense.
I see our great task as restoring the vitality of the state system within
the framework of a world of opportunity, and with aspirations for a world of
states that recognize accountability for human freedom and dignity.
All established states should stands up to their responsibilities in the
fight against our common enemy, terror; be a helpful partner in economic and
political development; and take care that international organizations work for
their member states, not the other way around. When they do, they deserve
respect and help to make them work successfully.
The civilized world has a common stake in defeating the terrorists. We now
call this what it is: a War on Terrorism. In war, you have to act on both
offense and defense. You have to hit the enemy before the enemy hits you. The
diplomacy of incentives, containment, deterrence and prevention are all made
more effective by the demonstrated possibility of forceful preemption. Strength
and diplomacy go together. They are not alternatives; they are complements. You
work diplomacy and strength together on a grand and strategic scale and on an
operational and tactical level. But if you deny yourself the option of forceful
preemption, you diminish the effectiveness of your diplomatic moves. And, with
the consequences of a terrorist attack as hideous as they are--witness what just
happened in Madrid--the U.S. must be ready to preempt identified threats. And
not at the last moment, when an attack is imminent and more difficult to stop,
but before the terrorist gets in position to do irreparable harm.
Over the last decade we have seen large areas of the world where there is
no longer any state authority at all, an ideal environment for terrorists to
plan and train. In the early 1990s we came to realize the significance of a
``failed state.'' Earlier, people allowed themselves to think that, for example,
an African colony could gain its independence, be admitted to the U.N. as a
member state, and thereafter remain a sovereign state. Then came Somalia. All
government disappeared. No more sovereignty, no more state. The same was true in
Afghanistan. And who took over? Islamic extremists. They soon made it clear that
they regarded the concept of the state as an abomination. To them, the very idea
of ``the state'' was un-Islamic. They talked about reviving traditional forms of
pan-Islamic rule with no place for the state. They were fundamentally, and
violently, opposed to the way the world works, to the international state
system.
The United States launched a military campaign to eliminate the Taliban
and al Qaeda's rule over Afghanistan. Now we and our allies are trying to help
Afghanistan become a real state again and a viable member of the international
state system. Yet there are many other parts of the world where state authority
has collapsed or, within some states, large areas where the state's authority
does not run.
That's one area of danger: places where the state has vanished. A second
area of danger is found in places where the state has been taken over by
criminals or warlords. Saddam Hussein was one example. Kim Jong Il of North
Korea is another.
They seize control of state power and use that power to enhance their
wealth, consolidate their rule and develop their weaponry. As they do this, and
as they violate the laws and principles of the international system, they at the
same time claim its privileges and immunities, such as the principle of
non-intervention into the internal affairs of a legitimate sovereign state. For
decades these thugs have gotten away with it. And the leading nations of the
world have let them get away with it.
This is why the case of Saddam Hussein and Iraq is so significant. After
Saddam Hussein consolidated power, he started a war against one of his
neighbors, Iran, and in the course of that war he committed war crimes including
the use of chemical weapons, even against his own people.
About 10 years later he started another war against another one of his
neighbors, Kuwait. In the course of doing so he committed war crimes. He took
hostages. He launched missiles against a third and then a fourth country in the
region.
That war was unique in modern times because Saddam totally eradicated
another state, and turned it into ``Province 19'' of Iraq. The aggressors in
wars might typically seize some territory, or occupy the defeated country, or
install a puppet regime; but Saddam sought to wipe out the defeated state, to
erase Kuwait from the map of the world.
That got the world's attention. That's why, at the U.N., the votes were
wholly in favor of a U.S.-led military operation--Desert Storm--to throw Saddam
out of Kuwait and to restore Kuwait to its place as a legitimate state in the
international system. There was virtually universal recognition that those
responsible for the international system of states could not let a state simply
be rubbed out.
When Saddam was defeated, in 1991, a cease-fire was put in place. Then the
U.N. Security Council decided that, in order to prevent him from continuing to
start wars and commit crimes against his own people, he must give up his arsenal
of ``weapons of mass destruction.''
Recall the way it was to work. If Saddam cooperated with U.N. inspectors
and produced and facilitated their destruction, then the cease-fire would be
transformed into a peace agreement ending the state of war between the
international system and Iraq. But if Saddam did not cooperate, and materially
breached his obligations regarding his weapons of mass destruction, then the
original U.N. Security Council authorization for the use of ``all necessary
force'' against Iraq--an authorization that at the end of Desert Storm had been
suspended but not cancelled--would be reactivated and Saddam would face another
round of the U.S.-led military action against him. Saddam agreed to this
arrangement.
In the early 1990s, U.N. inspectors found plenty of materials in the
category of weapons of mass destruction and they dismantled a lot of it. They
kept on finding such weapons, but as the presence of force declined, Saddam's
cooperation declined. He began to play games and to obstruct the inspection
effort.
By 1998 the situation was untenable. Saddam had made inspections
impossible. President Clinton, in February 1998, declared that Saddam would have
to comply with the U.N. resolutions or face American military force. Kofi Annan
flew to Baghdad and returned with a new promise of cooperation from Saddam. But
Saddam did not cooperate. Congress then passed the Iraq Liberation Act by a vote
of 360 to 38 in the House of Representatives; the Senate gave its unanimous
consent. Signed into law on October 31, it supported the renewed use of force
against Saddam with the objective of changing the regime. By this time, he had
openly and utterly rejected the inspections and the U.N. resolutions.
In November 1998, the Security Council passed a resolution declaring
Saddam to be in ``flagrant violation'' of all resolutions going back to 1991.
That meant that the cease-fire was terminated and the original authorization for
the use of force against Saddam was reactivated. President Clinton ordered
American forces into action in December 1998.
But the U.S. military operation was called off after only four
days--apparently because President Clinton did not feel able to lead the country
in war at a time when he was facing impeachment.
So inspections stopped. The U.S. ceased to take the lead. But the
inspectors reported
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that as of the end of 1998 Saddam possessed major
quantities of WMDs across a range of categories, and particularly in chemical
and biological weapons and the means of delivering them by missiles. All the
intelligence services of the world agreed on this.
From that time until late last year, Saddam was left undisturbed to do
what he wished with this arsenal of weapons. The international system had given
up its ability to monitor and deal with this threat. All through the years
between 1998 and 2002 Saddam continued to act and speak and to rule Iraq as a
rogue state.
President Bush made it clear by 2002, and against the background of 9/11,
that Saddam must be brought into compliance. It was obvious that the world could
not leave this situation as it was. The U.S. made the decision to continue to
work within the scope of the Security Council resolutions--a long line of
them--to deal with Saddam. After an extended and excruciating diplomatic effort,
the Security Council late in 2002 passed Resolution 1441, which gave Saddam one
final chance to comply or face military force. When on December 8, 2002, Iraq
produced its required report, it was clear that Saddam was continuing to play
games and to reject his obligations under international law. His report,
thousands of pages long, did not in any way account for the remaining weapons of
mass destruction that the U.N. inspectors had reported to be in existence as of
the end of 1998. That assessment was widely agreed upon.
That should have been that. But the debate at the U.N. went on--and on.
And as it went on it deteriorated. Instead of the focus being kept on Iraq and
Saddam, France induced others to regard the problem as one of restraining the
U.S.--a position that seemed to emerge from France's aspirations for greater
influence in Europe and elsewhere. By March of 2003 it was clear that French
diplomacy had resulted in splitting NATO, the European Union, and the Security
Council ..... and probably convincing Saddam that he would not face the use of
force. The French position, in effect, was to say that Saddam had begun to show
signs of cooperation with the U.N. resolutions because more than 200,000
American troops were poised on Iraq's borders ready to strike him; so the U.S.
should just keep its troops poised there for an indeterminate time to come,
until presumably France would instruct us that we could either withdraw or go
into action. This of course was impossible militarily, politically, and
financially.
Where do we stand now? These key points need to be understood:
There as never been a clearer case of a rogue state using its privileges
of statehood to advance its dictator's interest in ways that defy and endanger
the international state system.
The international legal case against Saddam--17 resolutions--was
unprecedented.
The intelligence services of all involved nations and the U.N. inspectors
over more than a decade all agreed that Saddam possessed weapons of mass
destruction that posed a threat to international peace and security.
Saddam had four undisturbed years to augment, conceal, disperse, otherwise
deal with his arsenal.
He used every means to avoid cooperating or explaining what he has done
with them. This refusal in itself was, under the U.N. resolutions, adequate
grounds for resuming the military operation against him that had been put in
abeyance in 1991 pending his compliance.
President Bush, in ordering U.S. forces into action, stated that we were
doing so under U.N. Security Council Resolutions 678 and 687, the original basis
for military action against Saddam Hussein in 1991. Those who criticize the U.S.
for unilateralism should recognize that no nation in the history of the United
Nations has ever engaged in such a sustained and committed multilateral
diplomatic effort to adhere to the principles of international law and
international organization with the international system. In the end, it was the
U.S. that upheld and acted in accordance with the U.N. resolutions on Iraq, not
those on the Security Council who tried to stop us.
The question of weapons of mass destruction is just that: a question that
remains to be answered, a mystery that must be solved. Just as we also must
solve the mystery of how Libya and Iran developed menacing nuclear capability
without detection, of how we were caught unaware of a large and flourishing
black market in nuclear material, and of how we discovered these developments
before they got completely out of hand and have put in place promising
corrective processes. The question of Iraq's presumed stockpile of weapons will
be answered, but that answer, however it comes out, will not affect the fully
justifiable and necessary action that the coalition has undertaken to bring an
end to Saddam Hussein's rule over Iraq. As David Kay put it in a February 1
interview with Chris Wallace, ``We know there were terrorist groups in state
still seeking WMD capability. Iraq, although I found no weapons, had tremendous
capabilities in this area. A marketplace phenomena was about to occur, if it did
not occur; sellers meeting buyers. And I think that would have been very
dangerous if the war had not intervened.''
When asked by Mr. Wallace what the sellers could have sold if they didn't
have actual weapons, Mr. Kay said: ``The knowledge of how to make them, the
knowledge of how to make small accounts, which is, after all, mostly what
terrorists want. They don't want battlefield amounts of weapons. No, Iraq
remained a very dangerous place in terms of WMD capabilities, even though we
found no large stockpiles of weapons.''
Above all, and in the long run, the most important aspect of the Iraq war
will be what it means for the integrity of the internationals system and for the
effort to deal effectively with terrorism. The stakes are huge and the
terrorists know that as well as we do. That is the reason for their tactic of
violence in Iraq. And that is why, for us and for our allies, failure is not an
option. The message is that the U.S. and others in the world who recognize the
need to sustain our international system will no longer quietly acquiesce in the
take-over of states by lawless dictators who then carry on their
depredations--including the development of awesome weapons for threats, use, or
sale--behind the shield of protection that statehood provides. If you are one of
these criminals in charge of a state, you no longer should expect to be allowed
to be inside the system at the same time that you are a deadly enemy of it.
September 11 forced us to comprehend the extent and danger of the
challenge. We began to act before our enemy was able to extend and consolidate
his network.
If we put this in terms of World War II, we are now sometime around 1937.
In the 1930s, the world failed to do what it needed to do to head off a world
war. Appeasement never works. Today we are in action. We must not flinch. With a
powerful interplay of strength and diplomacy, we can win this war.
END
4C)
The War in Iraq
THE WAR IN IRAQ
Mr. CONRAD. Mr. President, I asked for time today not to speak on this issue,
but on the war against terror and the war in Iraq. These issues have come much
more to the public attention as a result of the events of the last several
weeks. As I have watched those events unfold, I have felt more strongly the need
to come to this floor to speak up and to talk about where I believe we have
taken a wrong path in the war on terror, where I believe we have gotten the
priorities wrong.
When we were attacked on September 11, 2001, we recognized we were at war
with a terrorist organization that would stop at nothing, a terrorist
organization that would turn civilian airliners into flying bombs that would
kill nearly 3,000 innocent Americans. The President and the American people
recognized al-Qaida posed an immediate threat to this country. We agreed that
defeating al-Qaida was our top national security priority, and we vowed to bring
Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida terrorist organization to justice. As President
Bush said in convening his cabinet at Camp David after the 9/11 attacks: ``There
is no question that this act will not stand. We will find those who did it. We
will smoke them out of their holes, we will get them running, and we will bring
them to justice.''
We had an outpouring of sympathy, good will, and cooperation from all over
the world, as we began the war on terrorism. Today, it has now been 930 days
since the attacks of 9/11. And Osama bin Laden is still at large.
We have not found him. We have not smoked him out of his holes, and we
have not brought this mass murderer of innocent Americans to justice after 930
days. In fact, Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida organization continue to mount
attacks. Just 3 weeks ago, al-Qaida claimed responsibility for the bombings in
Madrid, Spain. Spanish authorities have arrested Islamic terrorists in
connection with that tragic attack, and al-Qaida continues to threaten further
attacks against this country.
When I saw the news footage of the bombings in Spain and when I heard al-Qaida
threatening more attacks on America, it deeply angered me. I believe it raises
several questions. Most fundamentally, why have we not, to use the President's
words, smoked Osama bin Laden out, run him down and brought him to justice? Why
is Osama bin Laden still able to threaten our country more than 2 years after we
agreed that putting an end to his threats was our top priority? Why, if his
organization has been disrupted and Osama bin Laden has been isolated, as some
in the administration claim, are Islamic terrorists linked to al-Qaida able to
organize and coordinate significant synchronized attacks such as the ones in
Madrid? How is he still able to produce and distribute these tapes and messages
exhorting others to kill more Americans?
As I asked these questions, it reminded that on April 30, 2001, less than
5 months before the 9/11 attacks, CNN reported that the Bush administration's
release of the annual terrorism report contained a serious change from previous
reports. Specifically, CNN reported that ``there was no extensive mention of
alleged terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden,'' as there had been in previous
years. When asked why the administration had reduced the focus, ``a senior Bush
Department official told CNN the U.S. Government made a mistake in focusing so
much
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energy on Bin Laden.'' In retrospect, that was a shocking
misjudgment of the priorities in fighting terrorism. But I fear that even after
9/11, the administration has continued its failure to focus on al-Qaida.
A Newsweek article from last fall reported:
..... bin Laden appears to be not only alive, but thriving. And with
America distracted in Iraq, and Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf leery of
stirring up an Islamist backlash, there is no large-scale military force
currently pursuing the chief culprit in the 9/11 attacks.
It is not just Newsweek. USA Today reported just this past weekend:
In 2002, troops from the 5th special forces group who specialize in the
Middle East were pulled out of the hunt for Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan to
prepare for their next assignment: Iraq. Their replacements were troops with
expertise in Spanish cultures.
Mr. President, I want to repeat that because this to me does not add up.
It does not make common sense.
In 2002, troops from the 5th special forces group who specialize in the
Middle East were pulled out of the hunt for Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan to
prepare for their next assignment: Iraq. Their replacements were troops with
expertise in Spanish cultures.
The CIA, meanwhile, was stretched badly in its capacity to collect,
translate and analyze information coming from Afghanistan. When the White House
raised a new priority, it took specialists away from the Afghanistan effort to
ensure Iraq was covered.
I find these reports deeply disturbing. We know who attacked us on 9/11.
It was al-Qaida. It was not Iraq. Yet we have top Pentagon and intelligence
officials saying that we shifted resources away from al-Qaida to focus on Iraq.
We have 130,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, but only 11,000 in Afghanistan. What
Earthly sense does this make? Al-Qaida attacked America, not Iraq.
Those 11,000 troops are doing important work in Afghanistan--keeping the
peace and recently renewing efforts to mop up Taliban strongholds that have been
gathering strength. And the administration now has plans for a spring offensive
to go after bin Laden. But according to our own officials, for most of the past
2 years, we had no large-scale military force dedicated to pursuing Osama bin
Laden and al-Qaida.
So I have to ask, why not? Why was there no large-scale military force
pursuing bin Laden for most of the past 2 years? Why did we allow our post-9/11
focus on bin Laden to be distracted? Why have we let new al-Qaida organizations
grow up all around the world to attack us and our allies?
It seems to me the administration's priorities were misplaced. We allowed
our attention to be diverted by Saddam Hussein and Iraq.
Many of us did not believe there was sufficient evidence to justify a
preemptive attack on Iraq in the first place. We believed it was not in the
national security interests of the United States to attack Iraq; that instead,
we ought to keep our eye on the ball and keep the pressure on al-Qaida and Osama
bin Laden because it was they--al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden--who attacked
America on September 11, not Iraq.
We feared attacking Iraq would leave us responsible for occupying and
rebuilding a country in a profoundly dangerous and undemocratic region of the
world, tying down resources we needed to meet other threats, including Iran,
North Korea, and al-Qaida.
We feared that attacking and occupying Iraq would deepen and energize
anti-American sentiment in the Islamic world, helping to fuel recruitment by al-Qaida
and other radical Islamist terror organizations.
And we feared that a war with Iraq would inevitably slow down our efforts
to capture Osama bin Laden.
In my statement on this Senate floor just minutes before the Senate voted
to authorize the President to go to war in Iraq, I said:
I believe defeating the terrorists who launched the attacks on the United
States on September 11 must be our first priority before we launch a new war on
a new front. Yet today, the President asks us to take action against Iraq as a
first priority. Mr. President, I believe that has the priority wrong.
That is what I said moments before the vote authorizing the President to
go to Iraq. I believe it was right then. I believe it is even more clearly right
now.
I also warned:
The backlash in the Arab nations could further energize and deepen
anti-American sentiment. Al-Qaida and other terrorist groups could gain more
willing suicide bombers.
I think we have seen, tragically, that this was true. Our troops in Iraq
are constantly under attack. Our allies, including most recently the Spanish
people, have been victimized by terrorists.
I warned that the cost of invasion and occupation of Iraq could be
extremely high, diverting resources from other national priorities. And that,
too, has turned out to be accurate. CBO now estimates that the cost of the war
and occupation in Iraq will total more than $300 billion.
In just the last couple of days, the American people have learned that all
of these concerns were shared at the very highest level of the White House. But
the President ignored those warnings.
The top counter-terrorism adviser to President Bush, Richard Clarke,
recently published a book detailing his experiences with the war on terrorism.
In it, Clarke writes that President Bush and other top officials urged him to
find a link between 9/11 and Iraq, even though he told them that there was no
such link.
He writes that the shift of focus from al-Qaida to Iraq ``launched an
unnecessary and costly war in Iraq that strengthened the fundamentalist, radical
Islamic terrorist movement worldwide.''
As Clarke put it on ``60 Minutes'' the weekend before last:
Osama bin Laden had been saying for years, ``America wants to invade an
Arab country and occupy it, an oil-rich Arab country.'' He had been saying this
as part of his propaganda.
So what did we do after 9/11? We invaded an oil-rich and occupy an
oil-rich Arab country which was doing nothing to threaten us. In other words, we
stepped right into bin Laden's propaganda. And the result of it is that al-Qaida
and organizations like it, offshoots of it, second generation al-Qaida have been
greatly strengthened.
These are the words of Mr. Clarke, the former Bush counter-terror official
who has just published a book on the subject. I spent part of this weekend
reading the book by Mr. Clarke. It is entitled ``Against all Enemies.'' I would
urge my colleagues and those who might be listening or watching to get that book
and read it. Whether one agrees with his conclusions or not, Mr. Clarke is
warning and alerting us, based on a lifetime of experience in four different
administrations over 30 years fighting terrorists, of where we may have gone
wrong. These are lessons that are absolutely essential for us to learn.
Mr. Clarke was not only an official in this Bush White House. He was also
an official, an anti-terror chief, in the Clinton administration. Before that,
he was in the previous Bush administration at a high level of responsibility.
Before that, he served in the Reagan administration. This is a man of
credibility. This is a man of qualifications. This is a man of deep experience
who is attempting to warn us of mistakes that are being made.
The charges he is making are serious charges. We know who attacked our
country on 9/11. It was not Saddam Hussein or Iraq. It was Osama bin Laden and
al-Qaida. But because the administration wanted to go to war in Iraq, Clarke
suggests, we not only diverted resources from the hunt for Osama bin Laden and
the al-Qaida leadership, we strengthened al-Qaida and gave it time and space to
develop offshoots that will continue to threaten this country even if we do
eventually capture bin Laden, which I pray we do.
It is not just Mr. Clarke who is making these assertions. Read the book by
Secretary of the Treasury O'Neill. I have read that book, ``The Price of
Loyalty,'' as well. He makes clear the Bush administration, in its earliest
weeks, were focused on attacking Iraq.
So I think we need to ask why we allowed ourselves to be distracted by
Saddam Hussein. We need to ask why we took the focus off of finding Osama bin
Laden and bringing him to justice? And we need to ask why the President decided
that going after Iraq not al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden--was the priority, and
see how that judgment has stood the test of time.
The President and his top officials made two main arguments for going to
war in Iraq: Iraq was allied with al-Qaida, and Iraq had weapons of mass
destruction that it could use to attack this country. That is what he told the
American people when he was persuading the Congress and the American
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people that we should launch a war against Iraq.
In recent days and weeks, the evidence shows we have been pursuing the
wrong priorities. Let us look at what we know now.
On the question of a link to al-Qaida, the polling shows that 70 percent
of Americans believe Saddam Hussein was behind September 11. Over half believe
that Iraqis were the hijackers of the planes. Let me repeat that. The polling
shows 70 percent of Americans believe Saddam Hussein was behind September 11.
Fifty percent believe it was Iraqis on the
planes that attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
The fact is, of course, not a single Iraqi was among the hijackers of the
airliners that were turned into flying bombs. The vast majority of the 19
hijackers were Saudi Arabians, as, of course, is Osama bin Laden. Fifteen of the
19 were Saudis. Two were from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt and the
other from Lebanon.
Not a single Iraqi was involved in the attack. That is the fact.
However, the American people believe there is a link because again and
again the President, the Vice President, the Secretary of Defense, and other top
administration officials have done everything they could to link Saddam Hussein
and al-Qaida in the minds of the American people.
They offered up two specific assertions to support this allegation: One,
the Vice President and others in the administration said repeatedly that there
was a link because one of the hijackers, Mohammed Atta, had met with an Iraqi
agent in Prague. But what does the most recent evidence show?
The fact is, the CIA and the FBI have concluded this report was simply not
true. It was not true because Mohammed Atta was not in Prague; he was in the
United States, in Virginia Beach, VA, preparing for the 9/11 attacks.
As The Washington Post reported on September 29:
In making the case for war against Iraq, Vice President Cheney has
continued to suggest that an Iraqi intelligence agent met with a September 11,
2001, hijacker 5 months before the attacks, even as the story was falling apart
under scrutiny by the FBI, CIA and the foreign government that first made the
allegation.
Second, the President and other top officials said al-Qaida maintained a
training camp in Iraq, but what they did not tell the American people was that
the training camp was in a part of Iraq controlled by the Kurds, not by Saddam
Hussein. The Kurds, by the way, are our allies. Once again, this is a disturbing
bit of information used in a way that I believe fundamentally misled people.
Yet Vice President Cheney, as recently as last fall, said that
Iraq was ``the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault
for many years, but most especially on 9/11.''
President Bush himself was forced to correct the record just a few days
later, when a reporter asked him about the Vice President's statement. The
President was very clear. He said there is no evidence that Saddam Hussein was
involved in the 9/11 attacks on this country. Here it is in the New York Times,
September 18, 2003, ``Bush Reports No Evidence of Hussein Tie to 9/11.''
But that did not stop the administration from making statements over and
over again linking Iraq with al-Qaida, and with terrorists more generally, to
create the impression the war in Iraq was part of our response to the 9/11
attacks and the war on terrorism. As Richard Clarke, the top counter-terrorism
official in the White House during 2001 and 2002, puts it:
The White House carefully manipulated public opinion, never quite lied,
but gave the very strong impression that Iraq did it.
They did know better. We told them. The CIA told them. The FBI told them.
They did know better. And the tragedy here is that Americans went to their death
in Iraq thinking that they were avenging September 11, when Iraq had nothing to
do with September 11. I think for a commander in chief and vice president to
allow that to happen is unconscionable.
These, again, are the remarks of the top counter-terrorism official in the
Bush administration.
In fact, it is unlikely there would be any strong linkage between Iraq and
al-Qaida because Saddam Hussein was secular, Osama bin Laden is a
fundamentalist. In many ways, they are mortal enemies.
I graduated from an American Air Force base high school in Tripoli,
Libya--in North Africa--in 1966. Anybody who has lived in that culture
understands very well the deep divisions between those who are secular and those
who are fundamentalists. It is a deep division.
But it is as though our administration in Washington is unaware of it
because, repeatedly, they have suggested the two were tightly linked. In fact,
they were sworn enemies. Who do you think it is we are digging up in those
graves in Iraq? They are, by and large, fundamentalists whom Saddam Hussein
found profoundly threatening to his secular regime.
I think it is time for America to think very carefully about the path we
are going down and to think very carefully about whether the strategy this
administration has adopted is a strategy to secure our future, or whether there
is a better strategy to be pursued.
What we do know is Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida organized the attack on
the United States. That is who is responsible. That is who we should be going
after. Instead, what we are hearing is that military and intelligence resources
were shifted to Iraq, taking resources away from the search for Osama bin Laden.
I have to ask again, Why? Why are we spending time and energy trying to prove a
link with Saddam instead of spending the same time and energy trying to find
Osama bin Laden and defeating al-Qaida?
The other thing that was asserted repeatedly in making the case that Iraq
should be the priority, rather than al-Qaida, was that there were weapons of
mass destruction in Iraq--nuclear weapons, chemical and biological weapons. The
President and top officials repeatedly warned of Saddam's efforts to acquire
weapons of mass destruction, and nuclear weapons in particular.
We had rhetoric about nuclear holy wars and mushroom clouds, and the
statements were assertions. The administration did not say that Iraq might--or
might not--have weapons of mass destruction. It asserted affirmatively that,
without a doubt, Iraq had these weapons and that they posed an immediate threat
to this country.
This chart lists a few of the many administration statements on Iraq's
nuclear weapons. The first one is a quote of the Vice President in a speech to
the VFW National Convention. He said:
Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass
destruction.
We have quote after quote from this administration. The President said:
The Iraqi regime is seeking nuclear weapons. The evidence indicates that
Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program.
Ari Fleischer, the President's press spokesman said:
We know for a fact there are weapons there.
It goes on and on. Secretary Powell said:
He has so determined that he has made repeated covert attempts to acquire
high specification aluminum tubes from 11 different countries, even after
inspections resumed.
And, again, Vice President Cheney:
We know he is out trying once again to produce nuclear weapons. We believe
Saddam has in fact reconstituted nuclear weapons.
These were the statements made over and over by this administration. On
chemical and biological weapons, the story was the same. The administration
repeatedly asserted that Saddam had revived his chemical and biological weapons
program and had stockpiles of weapons that posed a grave, immediate danger to
the United States.
We all knew that Iraq had possessed and used chemical weapons in the
1980s. And we all knew that intelligence had not conclusively demonstrated that
all these weapons had been destroyed. But the administration went well beyond
that consensus, suggesting that there was new evidence of renewed chemical and
biological weapon production.
This next chart I have lists a few of the many administration statements
on Iraq's chemical and biological weapons. Again, the President's chief
spokesman said:
The President of the United States and the Secretary of Defense would not
assert as plainly and bluntly as they have that Iraq has weapons of mass
destruction if it was not true and if they did not have a solid basis for saying
it.
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That was Ari Fleischer.
Again, later the next year:
We know for a fact that there are weapons there.
Secretary Powell:
We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass
destruction, is determined to make more.
President Bush:
The Iraqi regime has actively and secretly attempted to obtain equipment
needed to produce chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons.
Again, President Bush:
Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that
the Iraqi regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal
weapons ever devised.
The President's chief spokesman Ari Fleischer:
Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq
has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly ..... all
this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it
takes.
Mr. President, assertion after assertion. These statements, and dozens
more like them, painted a frightening picture of the threat posed to this
country by Iraq. They created a mood in this country that built support for
attacking a country that had not first attacked us or our allies, and to do so
for the first time in our history.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The time of the Senator has expired.
Mr. CONRAD. I ask for an additional 5 minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection? Without objection, it is so
ordered.
Mr. CONRAD. Again, these statements did not suggest that ``maybe'' Saddam
had weapons of mass destruction. They did not suggest that ``probably'' Saddam
had weapons of mass destruction. They stated clearly and unequivocally that he
had them. There was one only problem with these statements. All the evidence
that has emerged since the war suggests that they were wrong. All the evidence
we have now shows the administration knew at the time the statements were made
that its own intelligence undercut the statements it was making.
What we know now is that we have occupied Iraq for 10 months. We have
full, unrestricted access to the whole country, more than 1,000 investigators
searching for illegal weapons, and they have found none. Saddam did not have
nuclear weapons or any serious effort to acquire them in the near term. I think
this quote from the January 28 Washington Post sums up the most recent finding:
``U.S. weapons inspectors in Iraq found new evidence that Saddam Hussein's
regime quietly destroyed some stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons in
the mid-1990s,'' former chief inspector David Kay said yesterday.
The discovery means that inspectors have not only failed to find weapons
of mass destruction in Iraq but also have found exculpatory information .....
demonstrating that Saddam Hussein did make efforts to disarm well before
President Bush began making the case for war .....
``If weapons programs existed on the scale we anticipated,'' Kay said,
``we would have found something that leads to that conclusion. Instead, we found
other evidence that points to something else.
I think the attached graphic from the Washington Post sums up the gap
between the statements and what
we now know. On biological weapons, evidence since March of 2003? No. No
weaponized agents found.
On chemical weapons?
No. No weapons found. Appears none were produced after 1991.
On nuclear weapons?
No. No evidence of any active program.
I do not fault the administration for thinking that there might be weapons
of mass destruction in Iraq. I myself thought it probable that Saddam possessed
these weapons. But for me the real question was whether these weapons posed such
a serious, imminent threat that they justified a preemptive attack on Iraq. Did
we have solid evidence of an immediate danger? For me, at the time, the answer
was no. Today, with the benefit of hindsight, with the Bush administration's own
top weapons inspector acknowledging that the pre-war statements were wrong and
that Saddam, in fact, was disarming before the war, the answer is even clearer:
No.
I am not the only one who has reached that conclusion. For example, former
President Reagan's Secretary of the Navy, James Webb, recently wrote:
Bush arguably has committed the greatest strategic blunder in modern
memory. To put it bluntly, he attacked the wrong target. While he boasts of
removing Saddam Hussein from power, he did far more than that. He decapitated
the government of a country that was not directly threatening the United States
and, in so doing, bogged down a huge percentage of our military in a region that
never has known peace. Our military is being forced to trade away its
maneuverability in the wider war against terrorism while being placed on the
defensive in a single country that never will fully accept its presence.
There is no historical precedent for taking such action when our country
was not being directly threatened. The reckless course that Bush and his
advisers have set will affect the economic and military energy of our Nation for
decades. It is only the tactical competence of our military that, to this point,
has protected him from the harsh judgment that he deserves.
In my view, it was a clear alternative to a preemptive attack that had
worked for us for more than half a century--aggressive containment and
isolation. The Soviet Union had biological and chemical weapons. We never
attacked them. China had biological and chemical weapons. We didn't attack them.
Cuba had missiles. We didn't attack them. In every one of those cases we used
containment, and it worked. But we did not use containment in Iraq. We broke
with our history and launched a preemptive attack on a country that had not
first attacked us or our allies.
Now we have the responsibility for trying to occupy and rebuild Iraq. Now
we have moved resources out of the hunt for Osama bin Laden to deal with the
dangers of the occupation of Iraq, and we have not yet succeeded in capturing
bin Laden or shutting down al-Qaida.
I again must ask why have we not brought Osama bin Laden to justice? Why
do we allow ourselves to be distracted by a war with Iraq when we have other,
better options that allow us to keep the focus on al-Qaida?
It has been more than 30 months. It has been 930 days since the 9/11
attacks on this country, but Osama bin Laden is still at large. We all hope he
will soon be caught, but every day our attention is diverted is another day
America is at risk. That makes me question our policy.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator's additional 5 minutes have expired.
Mr. CONRAD. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent for 5 minutes to
conclude my remarks.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection? Without objection, it is so
ordered.
Mr. CONRAD. Mr. President, I thank my colleagues for their patience.
That makes me question our policy. It makes me question why for most of
the last two years we have had no large-scale force hunting for bin Laden. It
makes me question why our military and intelligence assets that could be hunting
down al-Qaida have instead been diverted to Iraq. It makes me concerned when
intelligence experts tell us al-Qaida has used that breathing space to
decentralize its operations so it will be harder to disrupt and destroy al-Qaida
in the future, even if we do capture bin Laden.
In the past few weeks, the administration has announced it has stepped up
the hunt for Osama bin Laden. Sending a few thousand troops now is certainly a
positive step. But I must ask with all due respect, could we have captured Osama
bin Laden months ago had we kept the focus on al-Qaida? Could we have prevented
the Madrid attack had we kept the focus on dismantling al-Qaida rather than
going to war in Iraq?
Where was the effort to find Osama bin Laden for the past two years? And
why do we not have tens of thousands of troops rather than just a few thousand
to hunt him down so he does not remain free to plot against this country and our
allies?
As Flynt Leverett, former CIA analyst and National Security Council
staffer for President Bush, observed in a Washington Post article this past
Sunday:
We took the people out [of Afghanistan] who could have caught them. But
even if we got bin Laden or [his top aide Ayman] Zawahiri now, it is two years
too late. Al-Qaeda is a very different organization now. It has had time to
adapt. The administration should have finished this job.
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I can only reach one conclusion. We have been distracted. We have been
diverted. We have taken our eye off the ball. We have lost focus on the real war
on terrorism--the war on al-Qaida and the terrorists who viciously attacked our
country.
To put it bluntly, we have lost time and momentum and initiative in the
war on the terrorists who actually attacked us while we went after a
dictator--vicious and nasty as he was--who posed little
immediate threat to this country.
If we look across the evidence, I believe in many ways the United States
simply made a mistake of judgment on what was most important. The President and
his advisers believed--and I believe they sincerely believed--the priority was
to go after Iraq. But the evidence we now have suggests they were chasing red
herrings rather than real evidence of a national security threat.
Don't get me wrong. The world is better off without Saddam Hussein in
power in Iraq. But going to war with Iraq at the expense of our credibility and
at the expense of our readiness to deal with other threats, at the expense of
vigorously hunting down al-Qaida and bin Laden, has been the wrong priority.
That is exactly what concerned this Senator, that a preemptive war against
Iraq--a country that had a low-level threat against this country, according to
our own intelligence agencies--has distracted us from going after the man and
the organization that attacked this country. It was not Iraqis who attacked this
country. It was al-Qaida that attacked this country. Saddam Hussein was not the
heart of that operation. Osama bin Laden was the leader of that operation.
It was Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida that engineered the vicious attacks on
America on September 11. It is unacceptable that Osama bin Laden is still at
large and broadcasting threats against this country 930 days after the attacks
of September 11.
So I ask a final time: Why? Why has bin Laden eluded capture for 930 days?
Why are we not focusing our efforts on bringing him to justice and defeating his
network of terror?
I think the American people deserve an answer to that question. I think
Members of this Chamber deserve an answer to that question. Holding Osama bin
Laden and al-Qaida to account for this attack should be our top priority. It is
time to refocus our priorities and to win the war against al-Qaida. Stopping bin
Laden and al-Qaida before they can launch another attack that kills innocent
Americans should be our highest national security priority.
I thank the Chair. I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Utah.
Mr. BENNETT. Mr. President, it is my understanding there is a unanimous
consent agreement in place as to who might speak. I ask unanimous consent that I
be recognized for 5 minutes ahead of those in queue.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. There is no order. The Senator is recognized.
Mr. BENNETT. I thank the Chair.
Mr. President, I listened with interest to my friend Senator Conrad.
And he is my friend. We use that term around here loosely, but he is in fact a
good friend. I differ with him very fundamentally.
I have learned in the superheated atmosphere of the Senate that I must
make this disclaimer: I do not challenge his patriotism, but I challenge his
accuracy and his conclusions.
I think we should also understand that as we differ on this, we are not
attacking someone's patriotism. That canard has been thrown across the aisle at
those of us who stand to defend the President and differ with our colleagues.
I will return to the floor at a later time for more extensive comments on
Senator Conrad's speech. But I want to make these points which I think
get neglected over and over and were neglected in his presentation.
He quoted David Kay, the President's arms inspector, as saying they are
admitting now there are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. What he failed
to quote from David Kay was the statement that after concluding his inspection
in Iraq, David Kay came to the conclusion that Saddam Hussein was in fact more
dangerous than we thought he was when we launched the war. I think that is the
point that keeps being ignored and must be emphasized again.
Senator Conrad says we didn't invade Russia when they had weapons
of mass destruction; that we didn't invade China when they had weapons of mass
destruction; and, why, therefore, did we invade Iraq when it turns out they
didn't have them? We did it because we thought he had the weapons of mass
destruction, and we thought that made him dangerous. It is not the possession of
the weapons that is the problem. It is the danger that is the problem.
Great Britain has weapons of mass destruction, but they are in no sense
dangerous. We thought Saddam Hussein was.
It is unfair to quote David Kay as saying there were no weapons and then
not finish the quotation with his statement that even without weapons Saddam
Hussein was more dangerous than we thought when we entered the war.
If you are going to use David Kay as your authority, you must use David
Kay's entire conclusion. Saddam Hussein was, according to David Kay, more
dangerous than we thought.
Yet somehow he is being cited as to the source to say we should not have
gone ahead.
This next major thrust of his statement was: Well, because we got
distracted with Iraq, we have not dealt with al-Qaida and terrorism. That is the
subject which I will address at some length when the Senator from Tennessee is
finished.
The fact is, you cannot single out al-Qaida as a terrorist group as if it
operates in a vacuum. I remember my high school history teacher saying, over and
over to us: You cannot cut a seamless web of history. You cannot divide the
threat of terror into neat little sections and say, we can deal with the one and
the others do not really matter.
I will be discussing and presenting on the floor here at a relatively
close future time the statement that appeared this morning in the Wall Street
Journal that is a summary of the Kissinger lecture, given at the Library of
Congress, by George Shultz. I had the privilege and honor of hearing George
Shultz present that lecture. In it he makes the clear point that the war on
terror, the threat from terror, goes all the way back to his experience in the
Reagan administration, when he was Secretary of State. And it manifests itself
in a variety of places and in a variety of ways.
There is no distraction in the war on terror by virtue of what we are
doing in Iraq. Saddam Hussein financed terror. Saddam Hussein countenanced
terror. Saddam Hussein provided sanctuary for terrorists. If we were going to
launch a war on terror, and said we were going to rule out Iraq as part of that
war, we would have been irresponsible.
Yes, the first attack went against al-Qaida and al-Qaida's sanctuary in
Afghanistan. But al-Qaida fled and sought sanctuary elsewhere. And one of the
main places where terror found sanctuary and finance was in Iraq. And we thought
Iraq was dangerous enough to invade, in fulfillment--as George Shultz points
out--of the clear United Nations mandate that went back decades. We acted in
accordance with that mandate. We enforced the United Nations resolutions in full
compliance with United Nations procedure and the vote of both Chambers of this
Congress.
It was not a distraction. It was part of the overall recognition on the
part of the Bush administration that this was not a law enforcement problem
where we needed to identify the criminal, arrest him, and prosecute him. This
was, indeed, a true war, across a wide spectrum of challenge, where we had to
deal with dangerous problems, the most dangerous of which, again, according to
David Kay--who has been quoted by those who are attacking the
administration--was Saddam Hussein: more dangerous than we thought when we
launched the war.
I think we should keep that in mind as we go forward in this debate.
I yield the floor.
4D)
Iraq
IRAQ
Before I do that, Mr. President, I have been sitting here listening for a
while. I think it is important to complete the story of what the Senator from
North Dakota was saying.
Let me be specific about this. As I heard his remarks, he was basically
saying the President of the United States made a mistake when he decided the
United States should use force to change the regime in Iraq.
I suppose one could come to that conclusion. There were some in the Senate
who did. But I think it is important, if we are going to begin to read
quotations and comments from those who have come to that conclusion today, that
we finish the story, as Paul Harvey said.
Here is the rest of the story. Here is what others were saying, others
were thinking, at the time President Bush had to look at the whole world and
look at this different world that we are in and make a decision.
It is true that it has been against the traditions of the United States to
make a preemptive strike. That was a major discussion during the Cuban missile
crisis. Bobby Kennedy brought that up in the councils. He was right to do that.
And I am sure in President Bush's councils that was discussed.
But, suddenly, we were facing a different kind of enemy. We were facing
terrorists. And we had just experienced an unexpected attack. There are some
even today who say that someone should have imagined that a handful of men would
hijack two airplanes and fly them into the World Trade Center. Maybe someone
should have. But I can assure you that during the 1990s, there was no one
running for President of the United States who expressed that thought or who had
that thought in the remotest back of his mind that such a thing like that could
happen. Terrorism, yes. But that kind of attack? No.
So, suddenly, we are in this new environment. And the President of the
United States is doing what I would hope any President would do of either party
when confronted with radically different circumstances. He asked some questions
and he took some action.
Now, it is important for us to remember that at the same time the
President was making decisions about whether we should invade Iraq to defend
ourselves, to prevent a terrorist attack--because there was a threat there to
American lives and American safety--there were others in our Government who also
had a chance to consider that information, and to talk about it, and to vote on
it.
We voted on it here. I was not here yet, but I remember the overwhelming
majority--bipartisan majority--in this Senate that authorized the use of
military force against Iraq. And I can remember very well what was said.
So if the issue is whether a prudent President--who is sworn to uphold the
oath to defend the United States of America--made a wise judgment to challenge
Saddam Hussein, whether he could have done that based upon the facts presented
to him, let's take a look at what other people, other well-informed people were
saying and thinking at the time.
The distinguished Senator from North Dakota read some quotations. Let me
read some more. Here is a member of the Senate's own Intelligence Committee, the
Senator from West Virginia, Mr. Rockefeller, one of our most
distinguished and wisest Senators, a man who has been a Governor, with whom I
have served, a man who is also on the Foreign Relations Committee. Here is what
the Senator from West Virginia, speaking on the Senate floor, said on October 10
of the year 2002, about the time the President of the United States was looking
at this information. Senator Rockefeller said:
There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively
to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next
5 years. He could have it earlier if he is able to obtain fissile missile
materials on the outside market, which is possible--difficult but possible.
We should also remember we have always underestimated the progress that
Saddam Hussein has been able to make in the development of weapons of mass
destruction.
Now, that was not the Vice President of the United States. That was not
Secretary Rumsfeld. That was not President Bush. That was the Senator from West
Virginia, a member of our Intelligence Committee, a member of the Foreign
Relations Committee, who was coming up with his own conclusions.
Here is another quotation made on the Senate floor on October 9, 2002,
about the same time. This came from the distinguished junior Senator from
Massachusetts, Senator JOHN KERRY:
I believe the record of Saddam Hussein's ruthless, reckless breach of
international values and standards of behavior, which is at the core of the
cease-fire agreement, with no reach, no stretch, is cause enough for the world
community to hold him accountable by the use of force if necessary.
That was Senator Kerry, at about the time that President Bush was
having to make this terrible decision.
I want to move on to other issues. But I don't think it serves our purpose
as a country to dredge up comments that show some second-guessing, some second
thoughts on one side, but not look back at what other distinguished, fairminded
reasonable men and women were saying.
Here is what Senator Biden said at about the same time on the
Senate floor, October 9, 2002:
If the world decides it must use force for his failure to abide by the
terms of surrender, then it is not preempting, it is enforcing. It is enforcing,
it is finishing a war he reignited, because the only reason the war stopped is
he sued for peace.
And finally, here is what the Senator from New York, Mrs. Clinton,
said on October 10, 2002:
In the 4 years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that
Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock,
his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. It is clear, however,
that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capability
to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear
weapons.
Those are the conclusions of the distinguished Members of the other side
who know a lot about this, the same conclusion President Bush had. We don't have
to listen to what the administration tells us here. We have our committees. We
travel the world. Some of us have been in other administrations. We read. We
listen. We talk. We come to our own conclusions. The conclusions of most
Senators was the same as the conclusion of the President, that as terrible as it
was, this was a time we needed to act.
There is one other quotation I would like to mention before I turn to the
Welfare Reform Act. This is a comment of a former President of the United States
who has, to his great credit, not backed away insofar as I have heard from this
remark. President Bill Clinton said, on February 17, 1998, in an address for the
Joint Chiefs of Staff and Pentagon staff:
Now let us imagine the future. What if he fails to comply and we fail to
act or we take some ambiguous third route which gives him yet more opportunities
to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for
the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that
he made. Well, Saddam Hussein will conclude that the international community has
lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to
rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And some day, some way, I
guarantee you, he will use the arsenal. And I think every one of you who has
really worked on this for any length of time believes that, too.
That was President Clinton in 1998 in an address to the Joint Chiefs of
Staff and the Pentagon staff.
The No. 1 issue on all of our minds is the war in Iraq. But I would hope
we could look forward and not look backward in recrimination. That is not too
much to hope in a Presidential election year. I believe the people of this
country want President Bush and Senator Kerry to say where do we go
from here, how do we win the peace, how do we secure freedom, how do we get the
men and women home from Iraq and Afghanistan, what can we do to help
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their families. That is what the focus ought to be rather
than reading long, incomplete lists of second-guessing quotations to try to pin
the blame on a decision that was broadly and widely shared based upon
information that had been piled up over 10 or 12 years. That does not serve our
process well.
4E)
Media Coverage of Foreign Policy, Libya
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under
the Speaker's announced policy of January 7, 2003, the gentleman from
Pennsylvania (Mr. Weldon) is recognized for 60 minutes.
Mr. WELDON of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, in this country, in this city,
sometimes the American media just does not get it. Tonight I rise to lay in the
Congressional Record and for the American people two stories that have
not gotten the attention they deserve regarding foreign policy and regarding the
actions of two nations in two regions that are extremely important to the
security of America and the world.
The first, Mr. Speaker, involves Serbia. Mr. Speaker, this nation went to war
and for the first and only time convinced our NATO allies to use NATO as an
offensive military entity to invade a non-NATO country in 1999 to remove a
sitting head of state, Milosevic, from office for war crimes for which he is now
being tried…
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…Mr. Speaker, the second story that has not been fully covered by the
American media except for perhaps one newspaper, the Washington Times, is what
occurred in Libya less than 1 month ago. Mr. Speaker, the President of the
United States deserves significant credit for a story that has largely gone
unreported in the mainstream American media. I did not see headlines on our
national newspapers about what happened in Libya. I did not see headlines about
the 90-minute speech that Muammar Qaddafi gave to his people on March 2. And so
tonight, Mr. Speaker, I also want to talk about the untold story of Libya.
Mr. Speaker, approximately 8 months ago, after having helped form the
International Energy Advisory Council made up of private energy corporations
around the world, I was told by the representative of Libya, Abdul Majid Al -Mansouri,
who is today here in Washington, that Libya was about ready to complete a major
turnaround. I was intrigued. I asked to learn more. He told me that Qaddafi's
son, Saif Islam Al-Qaddafi, wanted to meet with me and that if I came to London
in October for a meeting of the International Energy Advisory Council, I could
listen to Saif Islam Al-Qaddafi tell me the story of the change that was about
to occur in Libya.
I could not make that trip in October, Mr. Speaker, but I did meet with
Saif Islam Al-Qaddafi in January. We met for 3 hours and this young,
31-year-old, London-educated Ph.D. candidate in economics told me that his
father was in the midst of a massive turnaround of this nation. Libya, which we
have not had contact with for 29 years and which has been a major source of
terrorism around the world, was about ready to change in a very dramatic way.
I was intrigued when Saif Islam Al-Qaddafi told me the story in the
meeting that we had, and I said I was interested in potentially taking a
delegation of our colleagues to visit with Qaddafi himself. While meeting with
Saif, he made a cellular phone call and came back and said, you're going to be
invited into Tripoli within the next several days.
Two days later, Mr. Speaker, a letter arrived from the Libyan parliament,
the People's Congress, of what they call the Jamahiriya, their form of
government, they call it a democracy, and that letter invited me to bring a
delegation into Tripoli to visit.
Working with the military and assembling a bipartisan delegation of our
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colleagues, as I always do, seven of us left Washington to
visit Libya and then on to visit our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and spending
a night at our military medical hospital at the military Air Force base in
Ramstein, Germany. In fact, we brought 12 of our injured military personnel back
home to America.
We spent 2 days in Tripoli, Mr. Speaker, 14 meetings in two days. We
visited all the top officials of the country: Prime Minister Ghanem, the foreign
minister, the minister in charge of removing weapons of mass destruction from
Libya. We met with the leadership of Al Fateh University, a university with
75,000 students. We met with the leadership of the Qaddafi Foundation, which is
now settling the claims of the families of the victims of the Lockerbie downing,
that terrible tragedy that occurred, killing over 100 American citizens; and we
met with Qaddafi himself.
We also traveled through the marketplace unannounced to gauge what the
response of the Libyans would be to our visit. We had been told by officials at
the National Security Council here in America that we would not be welcomed, the
American flag would not be welcomed. Nothing could have been further from the
truth. The reception was warm, and the attitude of every Libyan
citizen that we met was positive. When they found out we were Americans,
they put their hands out to shake our hands, they hugged us, and they thanked us
for coming.
Our meeting with Qaddafi was held in his tent, across the field filled
with camels from his home that we had bombed in 1986. The home is still in the
same shape that it was back then, with the furniture and the holes in the walls
exactly as it was after the bombing, which, as we all know, killed his
year-and-a-half-old daughter.
The meeting with Qaddafi in the tent was a difficult one for those of us
on the delegation because no one had met with Qaddafi from America. No one had
been in Libya from America for 29 years. We were the first.
When we met with Qaddafi, we told him that we were glad to be invited
there. We were happy that his statements were such that he was renouncing
terrorism and had pledged to give up his weapons of mass destruction and that we
would judge him not by his words but by his actions.
We also told him, Mr. Speaker, that we would never forgive and never
forget what Qaddafi and the Libyans had done in helping to support terrorism
around the world, especially the bombing of Pan Am 103 and the bombing in a
Berlin nightclub that killed two young American GIs. But we told him that if he
did what he said he was going to do in removing weapons of mass destruction,
then our government would move quickly to establish a new direction in our
relationship.
Our trip was a successful trip, Mr. Speaker, so much so that as we left
Libya that first trip back in early February I was invited to come back on March
2 and deliver a speech to the people of Libya at the 27th session of what they
call the great Jamahiriya, the assemblage of the leadership of the governing
bodies throughout the country. Again we assembled a bipartisan delegation, and
this time I called Senator JOE BIDEN and asked him if he would join us to
have both bodies and both parties involved. He agreed, Mr. Speaker, but could
not be with us on our plane so was provided a separate plane by the White House
and landed the day that we were leaving, although we waited to greet him at the
airport terminal to give him a briefing on Qaddafi's speech.
On our trip to Libya the second time, Mr. Speaker, we spent a day in
Tripoli. We went back to Al Fateh University. We met with the students. We were
in classrooms. We met with the faculty, the deans. We met with the Libyan
Foundation. They told us about their plans for a massive human rights campaign.
They explained to us their efforts to move Libya back into the family of
nations. They talked about their efforts to deal with health care issues like
AIDS. They talked about the Red Crescent and their attempt to bring Libya into
the fold of the International Red Cross. They talked about Libya's efforts to
deal with the human rights concerns of all Libyan people.
We thanked them for their time and then moved on the next day to Sirte,
the city where Qaddafi is from. In Sirte 2 days earlier, the leaders of the 53
African nations had assembled for meetings about the unity of Africa with Libya
in a leadership role. When visiting Sirte, we were taken out to the site of one
of the largest manmade construction projects in the world, the project that
Libya has been undertaking for over 20 years, to build the largest manmade river
on the face of the earth, some 7,000 kilometers. This manmade river, in concrete
pipes that are 12 feet in diameter, is supplying water to areas of the desert to
convert them into arable usage for agriculture and farming and for the people to
live on.
While we were there meeting with officials from all over the world, from
the African nations, Europe, the Far East, China, South America, Central
America, the Middle East, we prepared for the evening event, the opening session
of the great Jamahiriya. We were ushered into the auditorium that probably
seated 1,000 people, Mr. Speaker, and in that auditorium were 600 members of the
elected bodies of the government of Libya, representing small towns, large
cities, trade groups, educators, and a diverse section of the Libyan population.
Some were dressed in traditional attire. Others were dressed in western dress,
all of them sitting waiting for the speakers to begin the opening session. Over
100 countries were there, Mr. Speaker, leaders of the foreign ministries,
ambassadors, foreign ministers themselves and parliamentary heads.
They brought our delegation in, Mr. Speaker, and placed the American
Members of Congress in the front row for all to see. The session began with
speeches by the Speaker of the Libyan parliament. That was followed by a speech
from a female leader of the Libyan parliament who talked about women's issues in
Libya. And then we had a speaker from the European parliament, the Egyptian
government, the French parliament and several other countries from around the
world.
Within about 30 minutes, Mr. Speaker, I was introduced to speak on behalf
of our delegation. I spoke for approximately 15 minutes, beginning and ending my
comments with Arabic to show some sensitivity to these people who we had
considered our enemy for 29 years.
When I finished my speech and sat down, another speaker spoke for 2 or 3
minutes, and then Colonel Qaddafi himself was introduced. Mr. Speaker, the
fireside chat, because that is what it was, it was not really a speech, there
were no notes, the fireside chat that Muammar Qaddafi gave on live TV throughout
Libya that night carried by Al-Jazeera but by no western media source, not one
TV station, not CNN, not Fox, not ABC, NBC, CBS, none of them, but carried live
throughout the Arab world, especially in Libya, was a speech that I equated
with, at the end, the tearing down of the Berlin Wall and the event that
eventful day in Moscow back in 1992 when President Boris Yeltsin stood atop the
tank outside the Moscow White House surrounded by 100,000 Russian people and he
proclaimed that communism was dead, that the Soviet Union was no longer a
nation.
This speech was of equal importance because, for 90 minutes, Muammar
Qaddafi, the symbol of terrorism throughout the world, the individual who funded
the IRA in Ireland, who funded the Sandinistas in Nicaragua, who funded the
radical Palestinians and who openly admitted that to his people that night, this
speaker told his people that he had been wrong for 25 years. He sat there and he
said, we supported all of these terrorist groups. We supported them with our
money and with our efforts. And what did it get us? It got us isolation. It got
us constant rebuke by nations of the West, Europe, America, and other nations
around the world. It brought us sanctions by the U.N. and by America. It
isolated us and our economy.
He went on to say, we were a major supporter of Nelson Mandela in South
Africa when he was imprisoned. But when Nelson Mandela came out of prison, he
became a best friend of America.
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He said, How can Nelson Mandela, the man we supported, be a best friend of
America and we be America's enemy? He said, There is something wrong.
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As we sat there listening along with our European and other friends from
around the world, our mouths were open. We could not believe the words he was
saying to his own people. He referred to our delegation in the room at least
five times; and he said, We are happy to have the Americans here for the first
time in 3 decades. But he said, My speech and my decision is not because of the
Americans alone. It is because we have decided that what is best for Libya and
its people is to destroy and get rid of all of our weapons of mass destruction.
And so to his people, after admitting that he had been wrong for 25 years
in supporting terrorism, Moammar Kadafi said, We no longer want any weapons of
mass destruction; and we are giving it all up to the British, to the Americans,
to the U.N.
And, in fact, they have done that, Mr. Speaker. We brought back boatloads
of materials, nuclear material down at Oakridge which Secretary Abraham showed
off to the people of America just a week ago. Nuclear fuel rods back to Russia,
chemical agents and precursors, mustard gas that we are now destroying. The
material to build weapons of mass destruction were in the hands of Moammar
Kadafi; and here he was telling his people, No longer do we need or do we want
these kinds of materials.
And then he went on to say, Mr. Speaker, in this amazing speech that
America was never an enemy of Libya. He said, If America was our enemy, they
would have taken us over. When we kicked them out of their military base in
Tripoli, they would have stopped us and would have kept their position there,
their troops there, and they would have attempted or would have successfully
dominated our people and our country; but America did not do that.
And so for 90 minutes, Mr. Speaker, in a speech that largely went unheard
outside of Libya and the Middle East, which is a terrible tragedy, Moammar
Kadafi did a 180 degree turnaround. Amazing, Mr. Speaker.
But what was so disappointing is there were no headlines in the paper the
next day. In fact, the only Washington reporter in the room that night was a
reporter that I was able to get into the country, Ken Timmerman who writes for
UPI and the Washington Times. Ken Timmerman on his own, because he could not fly
with us on our plane, flew 36 hours and arrived in Libya at 4:00 a.m. in the
morning. He went to all of our meetings.
Nothing was closed. And I was able to get him a meeting personally with
Colonel Kadafi. He asked all the tough questions, and he laid it all out in the
Washington Times. But it was not in The Washington Post. It was not in New York
Times. It was not in the Philadelphia Enquirer. It was not in the major
newspapers of America, Mr. Speaker, this major change put forth by Moammar
Kadafi. I would hope it was not because of bias, and I have really criticized
the White House for not coming out and taking credit for this dramatic
turnaround of our former enemy.
The liberals left over from previous administrations are already starting
to write their op-eds; it was not because of President Bush's policy. Let me
tell the Members, Mr. Speaker, none of those who wrote those op-eds sat where I
did for 2 1/2 hours across the seat from Moammar Kadafi. So all of their
rhetoric is just that, rhetoric. I sat across from Moammar Kadafi in his den,
and I met with him for 45 minutes alone with his interpreter; and I, Mr.
Speaker, as much as anyone else on this planet know what was in Moammar Kadafi's
mind when he made the decision. And for those pundits who are today suggesting
that it had nothing to do with our activities in Iraq and Afghanistan, I would
say, Mr. Speaker, they are full of you know what. They are simply attempting to
politicize a result that was, to a large extent, caused by the foreign policy of
our President.
Mr. Speaker, I would grant to those colleagues assembled in our body here
that that was not the only reason; but Moammar Kadafi himself told me that he
realized that it was not worth the risk of having America come in and do to him
what we did to Saddam Hussein. There were other issues. The influence of his
31-year-old son, Saif Islam Al Kadafi, had a major impact on his father. The
need for a modernization of the Libyan economy had a major impact. But for
someone to say, as various people have done in op-eds running around the
country, that the foreign policy of this President had nothing to do with
Moammar Kadafi's decision, they are just lying. They are naive. In fact, they
are stupid. And I can say that, Mr. Speaker, because I am the only American that
has sat across from Moammar Kadafi in the last 2 months, for 2 hours and 45
minutes in one sitting and another hour in a second sitting. I understand what
caused the decision.
Mr. Speaker, after the speech there was a huge round of applause from the
assembled Libyan citizens in the auditorium and again the speech was carried
live on Libyan TV; then they ushered our delegation back to the auditorium where
they wanted us to greet Colonel Kadafi. Representatives from over 100 nations
were following us all over the world. The Chinese had a delegation headed by the
leader of their Parliament, the European Parliament, the French Parliament, all
the African countries, the Middle Eastern countries, South America, Europe,
Russia. They were all there. Even North Korea was there, Mr. Speaker.
They put us up at the front of the line, the Americans. I walked up and
put my hand out to shake Colonel Kadafi's hand; and I said, Your speech was
extremely impressive. I think it will go down in history as a major event that
will impact the world.
He said, Congressman, I sat in the back in my office in the back of the
auditorium and listened to your speech, and I enjoyed it very much.
And I said, Would you do me the honor of signing my speech?
So, Mr. Speaker, on that night of March 2, after 29 years, Colonel Kadafi,
in front of our delegation and those with us from other nations, signed the
speech. After he signed the speech, Mr. Speaker, he admired a pin that I had on
my lapel. When we travel on CODELs, as all of our colleagues know, we wear the
pin of our country and the pin of the flag of the country we are visiting. Our
military escorts had given us pins with the American-Libyan flag interconnected.
Kadafi admired the one on my lapel. I took it off, and I handed it to him. I
said, Here, this is for you.
He put it in his hand and thanked me. And his top assistant standing next
to him, who is a personal friend of mine, looked at me and said, Congressman,
put the pin on his lapel.
So, Mr. Speaker, after 29 years of hatred between America and Libya, after
bombings and killings that have killed innocent people, Moammar Kadafi wore the
pin with the American flag and told us that he would follow through on each and
every commitment that he had made to our State Department and to our President.
In fact, it was amazing as all the delegations behind us, including the French,
had to shake Kadafi's hand while the flag of America emblazoned his lapel.
Our delegation, Mr. Speaker, was bipartisan; and our delegation consisted
of Democrats and Republicans from throughout the country who were there for this
historical evening and this historical speech.
It is just a national tragedy, Mr. Speaker, an international tragedy, that
the media throughout the world did not cover this event, did not have the
photographs, did not have the text of what Moammar Kadafi told his people. But
we will tell the story, Mr. Speaker, and we will go around and continue to
support this administration in removing the weapons of mass destruction material
that Kadafi has been giving us through his government.
This week, Mr. Speaker, Majid Al-Mansouri is in America. He is visiting
with our leaders. He is interacting with Members of Congress, and he is here as
a private citizen but a close adviser to both Prime Minister Ghanem and Saif
Islam Al Kadafi to establish contacts with Americans. So I will be calling upon
our colleagues in this body to spend some time with Majid Al-Mansouri as he
describes in detail the efforts now under way.
Secretary Burns visited Libya last week and has begun the formal process
of moving toward establishing an embassy in Tripoli and an embassy here in
Washington.
Mr. Speaker, this is an unbelievable story. I wish the White House would
take more credit. Typically, politicians are always taking credit for things
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they had nothing to do with, and here is our President not
even talking about the historical nature of Kadafi's turnaround. That is why I
am here tonight, Mr. Speaker. I am here because the American media has not told
the story except for the Washington Times and Ken Timmerman. And I am here to
tell all those cynics that the turnaround is real. We must encourage this
turnaround, continue to support the Lybians as the Kadafi Foundation fights for
human rights, fights for the kind of health care needs, fights for the
continuation of movement toward free and fair elections that we take for granted
sometimes in this country.
Two stories, Serbia and Libya, that need to be told in every newspaper in
America.
4F)
Pakistan Named Major Non-NATO Ally
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr.
Carter). Under a previous order of the House, the gentleman from New Jersey
(Mr. Pallone) is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I rise on the House floor this evening to
discuss Pakistan's recent designation as a major non-NATO ally.
Last week, Secretary of State Colin Powell visited India and Pakistan to
support the efforts that have been made by both nations to seek peace. For the
first time in decades, relations between India and Pakistan were easing; and as
a result, confidence-building measures were being established, such as
transportation across the border and cricket games between the two countries.
Although both countries are on a slow, yet steady, path for improved
economic defense and political relations, unfortunately that balance has been
damaged, in my opinion, by the Bush administration's favorable treatment of
Pakistan in naming it a major non-NATO ally.
Mr. Speaker, although we have advocated for the U.S. to view India and
Pakistan as two separate, distinct nations, at the same time we have advocated
for fair treatment based on record of democracy, commitment to ending terrorism,
and a variety of values important to the United States. India is a strong,
vibrant democracy of over 50 years, and Pakistan is a rogue nation under
military rule. India's nuclear program is civilian controlled, and Pakistan's
nuclear program was sold to nations such as Libya, Iran, and North Korea to
assist illegal, covert nuclear weapons programs. India is protecting its
citizens from terrorism in Kashmir, and Pakistan has sponsored terrorist
activity in its own backyard.
It seems clear that the U.S. and India are natural allies based on our
shared values. The reason why the U.S. and Pakistan are now allies is a result
of the shared effort to end global terrorism. However, based on all the reasons
I just stated above, I am taken aback by the new designation that the U.S. has
bestowed upon Pakistan as a major non-NATO ally. Not only was I surprised, but
India as a nation was surprised as well. Secretary Powell had just met with
India's leaders, but he did not mention the new status of Pakistan that was soon
to be announced.
Naming Pakistan a major non-NATO ally is completely inconsistent with U.S.
policies. Pakistan is not a democratic nation. Pakistan supports terrorism in
Kashmir, and Pakistan has engaged in nuclear activity for which it has recently
pardoned a key scientist who aided covert nuclear programs to rogue nations. The
result of this new designation, I think, has the potential to be devastating.
Not only was India surprised and disappointed, but further, Pakistan's new
role will lead to severe implications in the South Asia region. It is unclear
what the title ``major non-NATO ally'' means and what it means in legal terms,
but the most immediate concern is that a rapid and large-scale supply of
American military equipment could flow from the United States to Pakistan,
including the possibility of F-16s. In accordance with the Pressler amendment of
1990, Pakistan was not afforded major military supplies until post-9/11, in
which case specific counterterrorism supplies had been provided.
But this is very concerning because U.S. military supplies given to
Pakistan for use against Russia and China have been historically used against
India. Given the current climate of the conflict between India and Pakistan over
Kashmir, any additional weapons provided to Pakistan will likely be used to
escalate this conflict between the two nations and has the potential to build up
a full-scale arms war.
In addition, this new designation has the impetus for breaking down
negotiations in peace talks between the two nations that have just gotten
underway. Pakistan's newly established access to U.S. military supplies could
serve as an impediment to any further Indo-Pakistani talks.
Mr. Speaker, I cannot understand why the U.S. has afforded Pakistan this
major non-NATO ally status. Pakistan has a history of abusing military and
nuclear equipment, and yet we are allowing them to have access to depleted
uranium ammunition, special privilege in bidding for certain U.S. Government
contracts, radar systems, attack helicopters, and airborne early warning
systems.
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In exchange for Pakistan's assistance to the U.S. in the war against
terrorism, the U.S. has already allocated $3 billion worth of assistance, half
of which is directed toward Pakistan to buy military equipment from the United
States. The Bush administration must reevaluate their policies towards Pakistan.
The new designation of major non-NATO ally is unfair, inappropriate and, most
importantly, in my opinion, dangerous given the volatile nature of the South
Asia region.
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